Discussion in 'Japanese Cars' started by Dah_Hunter, Jun 21, 2013.
They are Legal this Year.. Who is going to bring one in..
they are a good looking car..
I wanted to, it'd be a nice car for my wife, but she's sold on a Pajero still.
I have thought about it, but am not sure about the horsepower aspect. Doesn't seem enough for stock.
The High Revv NA should be fun.. we will have to wait and see i guess.
Doesn't really appeal to me. I'd rather bomb around in a n/a supra.
I thought about it...pass...
I think too many people would prefer to just have an IS300. Looking at it from a resale perspective.
Are the altezzas in japan available in manual more-so than is300's?
Coming from a huge Altezza fan, I can speak of the great points.
Compared to the Supra or the IS300, this is like a scalpel compared to a hunting knife. Both are sharp but the Altezza is more precise. The IS300 has the heavy heavy 2JZ. I said heavy twice since it deserves is. It is a good engine in turbo forum with the strengthened internals but in NA, it is not that much different form the Altezza in power despite all the extra weight and length.
So, the Beams 3SGE engine comes with 210 hp from a 2.0 litre high revving and responsive engine. The 2JZ (non-turb0) is 215 - 230 depending on the application.
Like all great Toyota engines, it has a head designed by Yamaha.
Being two cylinders shorter, the engine can sit further back in the chassis. If you get a chance to see the engine bay of one, you can see it is stuffed back as far as it can go.
Supra - 1460kg (non turbo)
IS300 - 1476kg
Altezza - 1360kg
The designer of the Altezza was an integral part of the AE86 design and said that this is a spiritual successor for the 86. It is like the car that 86 fans would buy when they grew up and had families.
This car is not really for the driver who loves power. It is not fast, but it is really really fun (see the two reallys again?). It is the kind of car that will teach people to appreciate driving for the pleasure of shifting gears, understanding power bands, and staying in communication with your vehicle at all times. It teaches you to be a better driver. Power is great, no power is also great. I know it is crazy but it's true.
Oh, and 6 speed manual.
Great write up. I'd like to get one as a DD perhaps because of the 6 speed gearbox. Sounds like a lot of fun.
I think Derek laid it out pretty well. I think this car has a lot going for it, and I'm pretty stoked to get one(If I can ever stop spending on silly things). If they are anything like an IS300, they are also more refined than any other older Japanese car I have driven.
These cars in RS200 manual must be cheaper then JZX100 manual I would imagine eh?
Significantly cheaper from what I've seen.
Yes, no drift tax really so the price is not that much. They are used in racing a lot but these were very popular when they came out so there were plenty to go around. I don7t see the price going down any more though. As we see less and less of them, the demand for good ones will go up.
Ok cool, then these should be pretty affordable.
Wonder, what MPG we can get with auto/6-sppeed manual on highway...
Derek, the way you described it makes it sound like the unofficial predecessor to the GT86/FRS/BRZ, definitely puts the car in a better light than if someone were to assume it was simply a RHD version of the IS300.
Why did I read this? ... Light weight and 6 speed....
That sounds like a good starting point for sure. I wonder if it was gutted like track car how much weight you could lose. With still being a dd I'd say maybe 100kg as track style bare bones maybe 250kg? 1110kg with a 6 speed sound very enticing. Sound like a good low budget time attack car.
now and then you can find the RS200's with a 3S-GTE swap.. if you desire factory turbo power behind the 2.0.
That's what I would definitely want.
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