First, I'd like to point out that I called it: Well, I'm not going to feel closure for this yet, I really want/expect Areeb to confess, and admit. I guess that's because I've got optimism that he will do the grown-up thing. I think I can see now that I'm hoping for too much here. I'm really discouraged that he's chosen to go the route of allowing bitterness to creep in, making up more and more stories about how he was wronged, and making it tougher and tougher to admit that he was wrong. I'm disappointed that I got dragged in, and that my name/reputation got dragged through the mud on this too. It makes me sad that being "aligned" with Derek is even a thing, let alone a negative (as it's been created and portrayed.) I guarantee I would have done the same if it was any exporter. I've bought more cars from William at JDM connection, than Derek. I've had 2 from Mark at Brave, heck, even a few of my cars have come through Steve at Sastrad - I think I must have bought three from Derek. My original intent was to hold the community together and protect Areeb's honour - because I knew what the outcome would be if he went down the road he did. Again, I've no troubles if real data, and real proof exist about fraud. Go after it by all means, but libel based on hinkey feelings is really a terrible idea. It makes me sad that he's done this to Derek, and that he's not likely done. I have to say, even though it's all lies, that I started to believe it all a bit, in terms of what he's been saying about me - that I was disgraced, and handled things poorly there, was insulting and childish etc, UNTIL I went back and read the thread again. Not all of it, but I read my posts critically, and the most "offensive" thing I could find was a quip about him having to admit guilt once Derek proved with a bank statement that he didn't steal, that Areeb would have to put on his "big boy pants". Another time I mentioned that it was foolish (and I suppose that he could take that to mean I was calling him a fool) and once more, that I'd respond to Lunacy in the thread. Lots of damage control going on at that point.. I'm sorry to bring this up again, I'm sure many of you would wish this thread to die, and I'm content to let it now - I'd just been thinking without responding, and had to get my feelings out before it's too late. I can guarantee that in this forum, I will be glad to listen to the other moderators with future conflicts, and will serve the community with fairness, and respect, as I've shown all through my modship at the other place, and now here. I will always be willing to listen to your issues on the boards or in private.